I have avoided buying .22 guns simply because I can hardly find ammo for the ones I already have. I never set out to do a "from the box to the range . Cant wait for it to arrive. And it does just look nicer with the paddle release. Having diverse .45s and a Glock 20 (with an extra .40cal barrel), I went with the PPQ. The solution is to replace ammunition and use something more powered up. ; Bang Pull the trigger. I added Talon grips on my P99 and once this is done ergonomically it is almost the same as the PPQ. Dirty chamber mouth: If the mouth of the chamber is dirty, it can cause the failure to return to the battery. HK VP9sk is a lot better option, or CZ P-10c in the same size. However, the normal PPQ .22 mag is a 12-rounder, which does set it apart from the very much industry standard 10-round capacity. The high bore axis is not something people should be dealing with when it comes to modern polymer guns. This is not a small-scale "knock off" of the centerfire models. Replace the ammunition to fix this issue. With the hammer down theres more resistance to cycling the slide, but its still quite a bit less than on your typical centerfire pistol. Its only stupid if the gun is smarter than the operator. Wrong or defective ammunition: One cause of failure to feed is that either your ammunition is defective or you are using the wrong one. First off its bit picky with the ammo, which I can deal with, but is there any ammo, especially hollowpoints yall find to work well? Without it, the design in this regard is the same. 5. I've heard on Walther Forums that the .40s need to break in a bit. To fix this issue, inspect the barrel and make sure it is clear. At least, norm in the sense of whats popular these days, and certainly among .22 pistols that look like centerfire pistols and where the entire slide reciprocates (rather than an internal bolt or small cut-out portion of the slide, which Ive historically found to function more reliably). Defective fire control assembly: If your guns fire control assembly is defective, it will fail to fire. Failure to feed means that the cartridge is stuck moving from the magazine into the barrel when you pull the trigger. I cant imagine someone regretting having purchased a PPQ with the mag release of their choice. So youve only fired a Glock and maybe a revolver or DAO semi-auto? Only one problem: I havent seen a single round of .22LR in my corner of the country in going on 2 years now. But. Gun Exemption for NYC Synagogues? They were both failures to feed with a brand new shooter who did not have a strong enough grip. This full-size 9mm or 45 ACP striker-fired pistol features a textured grip surface and three interchangeable backstraps, an integral Picatinny rail for mounting aftermarket accessories, three-dot low profile sights that won't snag when drawn from concealment, and a double . The PPQ M2 .22's slide is hard anodized, CNC machined aluminum. Walther claims a forever warranty. First off it's bit picky with the ammo, which I can deal with, but is there any ammo, especially hollowpoints . The solution is to replace the extractor. The 5 target model comes with a fiber optic front sight. Trigger - Score: 9. The rear is adjustable for both windage and elevation. Every gun has an Achilles heel, and for the PPQ its the limited number of aftermarket accessories. Recommend to clean the gun every 300 rds. Hard to pass up. Buying one for my mom as well, who is just getting into shooting and loved the gun. According to the Walther website it IS zinc alloy, so somebody is wrong (and I hope its Walther???). Walther PPQ M2 Q4 TAC 9mm. Close. It is a common problem, especially with new shooters, because they treat their weapons gently and dont put enough force to seat the magazine into the gun. It's almost like a factor of deduction in a good Sherlock Holmes mystery. At a pretty consistent 4.25 lbs, the trigger requires just a bit less force than the 9mm PPQ we tested, which came in at 4.75 lbs. Ordered another Black mamba. Oh I also forgot Walther likes to use stepped chambers, so reloads aren't a great idea as they may stick in the chamber if they haven't been properly resized. Underpowered ammunition: An underpowered ammunition can also cause this problem. It is very astonishing for a .22. Wife shoots PPQ-M2 9mm 4" in IDPA and it has not given her any problems in many 1000s of rounds. I just bought a PPQ M1. Im just trying to figure out what could be easier than disassembling a Glock. discussions around Walther firearms including but not limited to the PPK, PPK/S, PP, P38, PPQ, PPS, P99, PPX, CCP, PK380, P22, G22, WA2000, VG, G43, G41, MP, CREED, and Q5 Match. Fuggedaboudit! Here is the disassembly process for the PPQ: 2. A poor design on the Walther model that allows the . The bullets in question are actually plated, not jacketed. Look here an we may be able to help you through the process of owning one, or many! While by no means am I attempting to trash GLOCK, the only advantage I can think of that the G19 has over the PPQ is availability of aftermarket parts and accessories. Walther Arms has always been a gun company thats taken higher steps in innovation with each new firearm. Is this gun a bit sensitive to that? So I'm going to have to give the edge to the Walther PPQ M2 versus HK VP9 when it comes to manipulating the slide. I think Ill just keep shooting it until it finally has a [non-ammo-related] stoppage and will update the review here if/when that happens. Sights Stock. Trust me, with this kind of trigger travel, you cant only shoot the PPQ fast, you can shoot it accurately too. I have always considered that to be much more reliable. Failure to Feed or go into battery at all, with Winchester white box 115g ball after 300 rounds or so. . The PPQ has a Tenifer finish applied to the barrel and slide. Now I think I need the 9. I had more or less discounted this entire segment of the market. Please Wait. It certainly beats having to manually pull back the slide and check the chamber each time! 10-round mags are available. The magazine release is broken: This problem also occurs when the magazine release is broken. Generally, too heavily lubricated means that you have used a lube that was good in warm weather, but now, the lube gums up the gun in cold weather. A thread adapter certainly opens up a near-endless list of doodads you can affix to the business end of the PPQ .22. Are you having problems with your Walther PPQ? and just to be sure were clear here in case you didnt see it in the review, the PPQ M2 .22 has no pot metal (zinc alloy, ZAMAK, etc) in it at all, No zinc alloy here. Also had two failed to lock back on empty mag. Accuracy: * * * * * This isnt a smaller scale, pot metal, cheapo plinker like so many .22 pistols out there its the full-size PPQ you know and love, made by Walther, with the same controls and slide length options as its centerfire brother and with a pretty darn good trigger in its own right. Have had the same issues with mine. Around 3000 rounds in less than a year on mine and still loving it. The 9mm rounds Ive put through the PPQ include 115-, 125- and 147-grain FMJs from Federal, Armscor, and Blazer, 147-grain flat noses from Federal, and some hollow points. Not totally sure though. 2500 rounds no issues. Failure to stay open is the failure for the slide to lock to the rear on the empty magazine. Also, replace if necessary. They are pretty darn similar if you set them next to each other. However, its my understanding that the standard 4 slide version and the 5 slide version use the same type of barrel so you could add a thread adapter to either of those models as well. Ammo-sensitive. ; Rack Rack the slide to clear the chamber and load a new round. The PPQ does have a machined aluminum slide. very reliable, at least with one type of ammo And to prevent this problem, ensure that you use the proper lock tight on your front sight and the proper torque. Thin barrels is also pretty standard for many .22s on the market. Walther's PPQ M2 is a recoil-operated (Browning tilting barrel) semi-automatic with a typical double-column magazine capacity of 15 rounds (in 9 mm Luger). . The fix is to replace the rear sight. and reblued it, PRO-BONO!!! Feels like a pretty standard 5-6.5lbs. My Sigs and H&Ks sit in my safe. H&K VP9. I purchased the M1. One observation I found the medium grip felt the best in my hand, however, I only got acceptable target hits with it I switched to the larger palm swell it did not feel as comfortable as the medium ones but it became a tack driver! I have not seen any problems with it though. I did not expect much out of the trigger but after the first couple of shots I discovered that the trigger was what set this gun apart. I just picked a Trijicom set. New. Took apart the striker assembly and noticed the spring looked like this. The PPQ M2 .22s slide is hard anodized, CNC machined aluminum. Call S&W if you still have problems. Also rare, and of the handful of examples I've seen, most have been in .40. Full-Size Advantage in a Subcompact Frame: The New Walther PPQ SC, New from Walther Arms: PPQ M2 Q4 TAC 9mm Handgun [VIDEO]. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. If you get a good firearm from Walther you might be good. Here are the different types of gun malfunctions and what to do about them: Squib Load. ThenI picked up and shot a PPQ. The front and rear flat-bottom slide serrations allow for a secure hold when pulling back the slide. I took the three supplied magazines, added the Taylor Freelance extended base pads and started shooting. I used the Remington Golden Bullet 36 gr at 1280 fps and no failures just very dirty. Fixed Front Sight with Fast Acquisition Dot. Authentic Look & Feel. The PPQ is a very simple design in the vein of GLOCKs, and the few controls on the pistol are right where you need them to be. Weak magazine release spring: This means that as you are shooting, the spring is so weak that your grip interferes with the button and depresses it. Could this be the cause of it or should it look like this? Wife shoots PPQ-M2 9mm 4" in IDPA and it has not given her any problems in many 1000s of rounds. Its literally a toss up on which one you could say is the better gun. Something I love in particular is the long, flat, slide stop/slide release lever, which is larger than the GLOCK, but completely ambidextrous. Sold my Glock 19. If this problem occurs once in a blue moon, its because of the ammo, but its a broken extractor if it happens frequently. Dirty chamber: Another probable cause for this malfunction is that the chamber is dirty. Walther does make an extended 17-round magazine, but I have yet to attain one and test it out for myself. But then Ive seen so many guys try to assert coolness by disassembling their 1911, Glock, or other pistol very quickly. If they have the same problems I'd contact Walther and send it in. Try a spare magazine, repair or replace it. You have to make sure that you have a firm platform for the gun to operate against. The PPQ with the paddle release (called the PPQ M1) will even accept the same magazines as the P99, and the two pistols are . Running 22 pistols with my cans is just too much fun. That resulted in a lot of FTE/FTFs and was like having a bolt-action pistol. It also looks even less like a .22 since its full-sized. Id recommend swapping the sights. I was missing a .22 in my collection, I am Very Happy I chose this pistol. Walther dropped the original PPS's unusual "QuickSafe" striker-disconnect feature. No trigger pull required. But I will take the quicker reset myself. Is this normal or did I get a bad gun? The P22 has always come with a 1-year warranty. However, there still isnt much in the way of aftermarket support for things like sights. He seemed to want to zero in on the extractor spring being just a shade too beefy and therefore not allowing the slide to travel back over the incoming round as planned. Well get into that later, but suffice it to say that if you didnt field strip the gun you would never guess that such a big difference existed between the centerfire and rimfire models. I prefer the medium backstrap that comes fitted on the gun myself, though I assume people with larger or smaller hands will favor the large and small backstraps respectively. Walther P22 Q Variants. You forgot to mention that the rear of the extractor becomes sunken below the surface of the slide so that you can tell by touch when a round is chambered. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Functions flawlessly. The Walther PPQ M2 for sale is an ideal self-defense handgun with superior ergonomics and fast, on-target performance. Defective trigger assembly: This problem also occurs when the trigger assembly of your PPQ is defective. Its run great for over 10k rds. I have shot both and the M2 magazine release looks and feels like it was an afterthough. I know one of the brands has a solid reputation though. Disassembly of the PPQ is straightforward and easy to get used to. Ergonomics: * ** * Question of the Day: Do You Know Any Fudds? [Well, as long as primers are well seated!] I agree with the description of the grip. In 1929, Walther released the inventive PP in .32 ACP and a year later the even more concealable PPK, which we should all know as the signature weapon of James Bond, 007. Im working in reverse order and am very interested in the .22 version. Almost everyone that Ive heard complain about not being able to use the paddle style releases indicate that they cannot reach it well with their thumb. Ive contacted Walther and the gun dealer, well see what they say and do. What are those first two rules again? The latest generation is now called the P22 Q and comes in a bunch of colors and variants. If your a DA/SA kind of guy and want a gun you can carry one in the chamber and then use a decocker to switch trigger to DA for safer carry than the P99 is going to be the pistol for you, but if you have cut your teeth on nothing but traditional striker fired pistols than the PPQ will be more up your ally. The trigger really is that smooth. The mag release is easy to find and easy to press, and mags drop free. I love love love me a good Walther PPQ, although I completely disagree with you on the button mag release. Hmm not making that clear in the review was definitely an oversight. Alright, the dragons mouth on the end of the barrel is too awesome to ignore.just saying. i had a 20 year old mk2 10 bull that was rusty, and the frame to reciever fit was sloppy, and they fixed it (repalced lower?) Wrong magazine: Having a wrong magazine can also cause failure to feed. Tenifer is a ferric nitro carburized hardening that diffuses carbon and nitrogen. Plastic front sight so I guess it just got hung up on something and pulled out. They sent a new compensator. I had a choice of the M1 or M2. Discover now the best deals and amazing prices. So, it wont have the full force to pull the extractor back. This is The Best Running .22 pistol I have Ever used in 55 years. I tried a box of the cheapest Federal value pack bulk though, Im not sure what velocity that is rated at. Most striker-fired 9mm on market (such as P320) need a lot of work. Overall Length: 7.1, 7.7, or 8.1, respective to above barrel options. Your Walther PPQ might fail to feed. Sometimes, this can happen when you take the sear housing assembly out of the pistol frame, and the trigger bar guide will come apart from the sear housing. The only thing that sucks and must be upgraded are the sights. Quick Reply to: We encountered an issue with the PPQ SC when manually cycling the slide. The Walther PPQ M1 is my favorite for now. The three finger grooves on the grip also contribute to the excellent ergonomics. The first 2 mags were great, for the rest, in every mag I had some sort issue- failure to feed the next round, where I had to drop the mag and clear the unspent/jammed round. The other surprise was how comfortable it felt in my hand. These guns are tack drivers. The PPQ fed about 100 rounds of WWB flawlessly. I strive to improve with each trip to the shooting range, and this is the gun I plan on using for working on my pistol accuracy. My PPS M2 came with the rear site moved over so far to the right that is will not co witness with optics. Not a single failure of any sort since taking it out of the box when it was brand new. Im pretty sure that slide is aluminum, and not any zinc junk. Not well described how to press the teenie-tiney black pin, slide down cover, prey the spring doesnt go flying I didnt learn how to take it apart until I had about 1000 rounds through it. As a .45-aholic, I once felt compelled to add a 9mm item. Finally. I got one of the new VP9s, it is good, but I still carry the PPQ. Luckily he was following range rules and had it pointed downrange. Until I see shelves consistently stocked full of bricks, I wouldnt consider buying another .22. Carries very nicely in my iwb Black Arch holster. And accept this, that without the pull-the-trigger trick wed never have had the Miami DEA agent Im the only one in the room professional enough to blow my foot off video. I stand corrected. All sorts of failures. . It was by far the lowest quality worst and most unsafe firearm I have ever owned. I have both, but I prefer the PPQ, for its trigger. The size of the bump along the back of the grip made me think it wasnt going to fit my hand very well. $34.99 . To prevent this issue, get a firm platform. Press J to jump to the feed. So it would fire, it just wouldn't reset itself to accept the next round. You dont need to pull the trigger to strip it. In this case, the slide fails to go forward to the place where the barrel locks up, and the disconnector allows the gun to fire. The slide is not in the battery: One probable cause of this malfunction is that the slide is not in the battery. Archived. It was a $250 target pistol. So, make sure to use enough force. Very good accuracy at 15 meters. For cost reasons I am unable to invest in buying thousands of rounds just to test the PPQ to its limits. They arent as expensive as HK mags but they do have the market cornered and you pay for that. Its red and sticky. Blowback Action. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. When fired, it would fire correctly but the slide would not slide all the way back into place. The same gripe I had about the extended slide catch lever carries over, as you would expect. Check the PPQ forum at the Weather Forums. Turned out the firing pin was snapped in half, and the grip frame wasn't made right. It has an incredible trigger and excellent ergonomics. If any of the two is defective, replace it. Compared to the Beretta 92-series, GLOCKs, Smith & Wessons M&P line, or Springfield XDs, the PPQ is simply lacking in this department. Slide feels a bit smoother, hopefully it will shoot fine. 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