Below, from left to right: .44 S&W Russian, .44 S&W Special and .44 Remington Magnum. And the .455 Webley should be .455 Webley Way Short and a .450 Webley would be How in the world do you have any room for the daggone powder and a bullet Short Short. Now jump to 1907. However, bullets changed from 246-gr. (In fact, they'll chamber the .44 Special cartridges.) Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Stand these two cartridges side by side, and the differences in dimensions seem insignificant. gp100 several years ago and doesnt list one on their site, second time that I know of. Where .44 Special shines the most in comparison to its bigger brother is having drastically less recoil. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. I may eventually risk a few cases to see what happens, but it's not a priority. The first .44 Magnum I had was a 4 Model 29 in the late 1970s. In 1957 the company went to model numbers with .44 Mags getting Model 29. The .44 Magnum was the end result of decades of hot .44 Spl hand loads. The original .44 Special load introduced by Smith & Wesson featured a 246-grain round-nose lead bullet backed by a smokeless powder charge equivalent to 26 grains of black powder. However, when a heavyweight bullet rips through the air at Magnum velocities, over-penetration can be a serious concern. Seven of the best .44 Magnum Revolver on the market 2023. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Likewise, .44 Magnum can still make for an excellent hunting revolver if you can handle the recoil. The .44 Smith and Wesson, based off the .44 Russian was introduced in 1907 for the Smith and Wesson New Century Revolver. Great Brass by a company with top notch customer . They were derived in a stair step fashion. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. No purchase necessary. Both pistol and rifle. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit . of Universal is right at 720 fps, while 5.0 grs. When he got to the unloading table he realized what he'd done we all got a good laugh. and .44 Magnum and refer to the Russian as the .44 Short. Could I? All entries must be received by giveaway end date. 38 Colt Short, 38 Colt Long, 38 Special in a .357 Magnum. Sure, some people handle recoil better than others. When a hunter shoots an animal, it may not drop dead in its tracks. It typically produced a velocity of 750 feet per second with 310 foot-pounds of energy. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. .44 Russian is .429 same as .44 spl, .44 Mag. Lever actions and semi-autos chambered in 44 magnum may not (most likely won't) cycle correctly do to the differences in C.O.L. Quad-ported by Mag-Na-Port and put a 500 S&W Hogue recoil absorbing grip on it. With similar ballistics and accuracy of the .44 Russian using the then new smokeless propellant. Delf Jelly Bryce carried a .44 Special for much of his career, though switched to a 3.5-inch S&W Magnum when he went to work for the FBI. of Universal for just under 760 fps and 1 groups. (II) Limit one entry per household. Now bullets were not only of uniform diameter, the lube grooves were also seated inside the case, and the cylinder now had two diameters in the chambers. However, the weight of the gun and the weight of the projectile its firing also affect the amount of recoil produced. If an expanding bullet hits the target at a slower rate of speed, it may fail to expand. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Related Links; Rock Island Arsenal Bolt action .22 TCM; Savage Arms Corp. Model 24 Combination Gun .22LR/.410 GA; SMITH & WESSON S&W 14-2 K-38 MASTERPIECE 38 . It is usually a 44 casing loaded with lead shot. Since the Russians promised to pay for their S&W Model #3 in gold, the company was happy to accept their idea. [3][4], Smith & Wesson did so by reducing the diameter of the .44 bullet to .429 and adding lubrication grooves to its base. wild bunch GREED & the gamers from IPSC killed the fun. Some will get on here and say its fine to shoot .44 Special/Russian in a .44-40 cylinder and they do it all the time. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if needed) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. Now, almost 70 years later, .44 Magnum is still going strong. The Russian is a bit shorter, but I wouldn't mess with it anyway; as 44 Special brass is harder to find than 44 Mag, and the Russian even harder to find. 30 Super Carry; 429 DE Magnum; 8mm Lebel; 9x21mm IMI; 9x23 Win . Bill Jordan said as much in his book No Second Place Winner; as did fellow Border Patrolman Skeeter Skelton. The new magnum case was the .44 Special stretched to 1.29. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: American Handgunner Magazine, GOM Mar/Apr 2023, P.O. .44 Russians (Flat Nose) will not function in my Browning B-92 .44 Magnum. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Then there was a Third Model .44 Russian with 6.5 barrel. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. 180 Grain TCFP Hi-Tek Coated Cowboy Action~100% Hand-Loaded!! Colt chambered the Single Action Army in .44 Russian and after the .44 Special arrived they chambered for it too, marking the barrel: Russian and S&W Special .44. Colt also chambered a very few of their Model 1878 Double Action sixguns in .44 Russian and S&W, even though the Triple-Lock debuted in .44 Special, apparently had to take care of some diehards and thus a few Triple-Locks are also found chambered in .44 Russian. 416 Rem Mag; 44-40 Win; 416 Rigby; 416 Ruger; 444 Marlin; 45-60 WCF; 45-70 Government; 450 Bushmaster; . To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. 3. The .44 Mag is a close- to mid-range cartridge. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. I miss shooting them but still have a box and a half sitting on my loading bench. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. 44-40 or 44WCF are larger diameter cases like 45 Colt cases then bottle necked to a .427 bullet. .44 Russian is .429 same as .44 spl, .44 Mag. Pro: Very fast reloads Con: $200 to machine, $8 per clip; and you need a lot. BTW, before the Magnum was even thought of the .44 S&W Special was the Bullseye Competition Cartridge of Choice for many years. If they feed and chamber, should be safe. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: American Handgunner Magazine, GOM May/June 2023, P.O. In the mid-1950s, Keith partnered with the Remington cartridge company to create the .44 Remington Magnum, which sat a 260-grain bullet in a longer case and propelled it to 1,200 fps or higher. View as Grid . . Smith & Wesson - 69 Combat Magnum .44 Mag 2.75 SS. Must specify Starline or Hornady/Speer/some other. Compared to the hotrod .44 Magnum, the Special delivers fairly sluggish speeds. Its amazing what a mere 4.4 grains of extra case capacity can achieve. Velocity changed also to nominal 1,470 fps. Deployed military should use stateside address. Thats why most..44 Magnum handguns have a little more heft than the typical .44 Special. Keith pestered the ammo companies to bring out heavier .44 Special loads, but there was a fear that such powerful loads would blow up an older, weaker revolver. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. 44 Magnum (39) 44 Russian (3) 44 Special (36) 44-40 Winchester (9) 444 Marlin (5) 445 Super (2) 45 Acp (43) 45 Auto Rim (30) 45 Long Colt (27) 45 Schofield (7) 45-100 (1) . You can safely shoot .44 Russian ammunition in any .44 Magnum or .44 Special revolver. You can load the .44 mag cartridge to milder loads than the wrist wrenching .44 mag screamers. They brought the gp100 in 44 spl back a few years ago. Dubbed the New Century, Smith & Wesson designed their new revolver as a nostalgic hat-tip to the big-bore black-powder sidearms (like the Colt Army Revolver) that tamed the American West. I was chambering .44 Russian in a 44-40 chamber, not .44 magnum or .44 Spl. Doug shot the bear and stopped the attack. This revolver was chambered in a .44 centerfire, however to accommodate those who had Winchesters and wanted a companion revolver, S&W also chambered the American in .44 Rimfire, used in the Henry and Winchester 1866 Yellowboy leverguns. Cartridge Specs: .44 Magnum vs .44 Special. N.S.F.W. When choosing a round for hunting, it is important to make sure the cartridge can effectively and ethically harvest whatever game animal youre pursuing. lbs). Bottom line is you need to have 2 cylinders for this. Can a 44 magnum shoot 44 Special? Both are good for bowling pin shoots, though you'll get faster splits using .44 Special. The .44mag was made in 1975 and the little .357 is an early eighties model. M. Ayoob had a .44 Magnum converted to .44 Automag. If you were really torn about these two cartridges, the best practice would be to get a .44 Magnum and figure out which .44 Special loads shoot to the sights and don't lose any accuracy. While Special cases are usually more expensive than Magnum brass, you can always save your spent brass to save a few bucks. If all that cowboy has ever seen is a stockdam, he ain't gonna believe ya when ya tell him about whales. GUNS Magazine The .44 Russian - GUNS Magazine The .44 Russian Born in the USA, perfected by The Bear Written By John Taffin Experts Campfire Tales Handguns Revolvers 2020 84 In 1870 the United States Military purchased 1,000 Smith & Wesson .44 American revolvers. Most .44 Mag hunting loads leave the barrel with around 1000 ft/lbs of energy. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Heres the early .44 Smith & Wesson cartridges, (left to right) .44 American, Russian and Special. Attachments 44 Remington Magnum reduced target loads.doc 57.5 KB Views: 458 For info purposes only, use it at your own risk. While the former has good enough performance to be suitable for self-defense, its not an ideal choice given what else is available on the current market. Stopping power is one of those terms that gets tossed around as shooters try to qualify the effectiveness of certain cartridges. In the same publication, Col. Charles Askins wrote that .44 Magnum is a man's cartridge, but he would also later write that it and .41 Magnum had too much recoil for serious prolonged use. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. not. Both cartridges were originally designed for big bore revolvers. . To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The 44-40 chamber is too large(about the same diameter as a 45 Colt case) and bottle necked. Not me ! VTI has Uberti 44 special cylinders for $110 each. Smith & Wesson, Colt, Ruger, Korth, Taurusthe list goes on. Feb 21, 2010 I have been doing it for years, its just like shooting 38 Specials in a 357 Magnum. I have a pair of Uberti 44WCF revos and purchased two 44 Special cylinders and fitted to these revolvers and to shoot 44 Russian. You can get away with a much lighter firearm with .44 sp. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. If its strong enough to take down a black bear, it can certainly stop two-legged predators. (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. Later all lube grooves were covered as would be right and proper with lead alloy bullets. Family. Generally defined as how effectively the round can terminate a threat or drop a game animal, stopping power is a complicated subject. [3], Over 131,000 S&W Model 3 revolvers were eventually sold to the Russian Army. Ruger offers a couple of 5-shot GP100 models as well as the Blackhawk Bisley in .44 Special, the latter being a subtle nod to Elmer Keith's Revolver No. They changed the grip frame of the American, adding a small hump at the top of the backstrap, preventing the pistol from sliding in the hand under recoil. I use an old .44 Special expanding die and purchased a .44 Russian seating die. In short, because of .44 Magnums unwieldy recoil, .44 Special is the better choice for two-legged threats. The 44-40 (first known as 44 Winchester Centerfire or WCF) was introduced in 1873; the 44 Russian was introduced in 1871. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Barrel lengths were reduced from 8 with the First Model Russians to 7 on the Second Model Russians. They satisfied different requirements: the 44-40 was a rifle cartridge, the 44 Russian a revolver cartridge. The rational always seems to be a "because I can" mind set. As for purpose-built .44 Special revolvers, while there may be a decent number of older models for sale on the used market, new-production options are severely limited. Vote Independent, vote Republican, vote Democratic, just dont vote Incumbent! The .44 Mag remains one of the most popular big-bore cartridges. 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